tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6478273273186623663.post6274636252345289745..comments2024-03-12T12:03:26.474-07:00Comments on Scriptorium Blogorium: Monogamy as God's Standard for MarriageMichaela Stephenshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04163084369311708249noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6478273273186623663.post-82289393560927330682013-09-07T22:07:04.989-07:002013-09-07T22:07:04.989-07:00Becky Rose and Brenda, thanks for chiming in with ...Becky Rose and Brenda, thanks for chiming in with your perspective. I love to see how different people derive meaning from the scriptures.Michaela Stephenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04163084369311708249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6478273273186623663.post-73211256220147898702013-09-07T08:05:55.559-07:002013-09-07T08:05:55.559-07:00I've never understood why people see this part...I've never understood why people see this part of Isaiah as:<br /> "symbolism, symbolism, oh look! 7 women-- woohoo it's got to be literal, ...more symbolism". <br /><br />Just as a suggestion of other ways to see it, this is a cut & paste of my study notes:<br /><br />My examination of the Hebrew of this verse makes me confident in translating “one man” as “a certain man.” The verse thus teaches that in the latter day seven women (symbolic number of completeness, denotes the covenant people) shall take hold of a certain man (guess who that would be?) and ask him “let us be called by thy name,” which will take away their reproach (effects of atonement). In my view this verse is Messianic and has nothing whatsoever to do with polygamy.<br /><br /><br /><br />PROPHECY - Isaiah 4:1<br />"And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, "We will eat our own bread and wear our own apparel Only let us be called by thy name To take away our reproach."<br /><br />The day (future to Isaiah's prophecy c. 740 B.C.) will come when all the women (church, bride to be of Christ) will take hold (seize, gain possession, win, captivate charm, conduct, adopt, interpret, to operate) of one man (Jesus Christ) saying, "We will eat our own bread (own Manna, own words of life, own doctrine) and wear our own apparel (own garments of salvation or robe of righteousness); only let us be called by thy name (Jesus, Christian) to take away our reproach (shame, scorn, disgrace).<br /><br />The prophesy foretells the time when all the churches will call themselves Christians in name only because they will preach their own doctrines and explain their own interpretation of righteousness ignoring the commandments of God. They believe that in calling themselves Christians will take away their shame.<br /><br />Seven<br /><br />A sacred number among the Jews, also indicating perfection or completion. It was used very often in a symbolic manner for the whole of a thing.<br /><br />The number seven entered very largely into the religious life and observances of the Jews.<br /><br />Seven spirits (Rev.1:4); Seven times wash in Jordan (2 Kings 5:10,14);<br /><br />Seven stars (Rev. 1:16; 2:1; 3:1); Seven years (Gen. 29:18);<br /><br />Seven years of famine (2 Sam. 24:13).<br /><br />Seven women would signify a complete number of churches.<br /><br /><br /><br />Woman - Church<br /><br />The Lamb's wife signifies the Church of Jesus Christ.<br /><br />Lamb's wife (Rev. 21:9); Jerusalem as bride for the Lamb (Rev. 21:2)<br /><br />Worship at Jerusalem (John 4:21); Word of the Lord from Jerusalem (Isa. 2:3; Mic. 4:2).<br /><br />The women mentioned in this verse would mean all the Christian Churches. The seven churches mentioned by John in Revelation 1 and 2 <br /><br /><br /><br />Man - Jesus, Son of Man<br /><br />Bread - Words of God<br /><br />Jesus ... the bread of life (John 6:32)<br /><br />Words of God<br /><br />Apparel - White Raiment, heavenly Garment<br /><br />Garments of salvation (Isa. 61:10; Ps. 132:16)<br /><br />Robe of Righteousness (Job 29:14)<br /><br />White raiment (Re. 3:5) He that overcometh, ... clothed in white raiment.<br /><br />Four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment (Re. 4:4)<br /><br />Clothed with white robes (Re.7:9) Instead of preaching righteousness they are not clothed in garments of salvation.<br /><br />Brendanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6478273273186623663.post-4596117749235693352013-09-07T03:36:38.463-07:002013-09-07T03:36:38.463-07:00I looked at the 7 women scripture as taking hold o...I looked at the 7 women scripture as taking hold of the Lords name and supporting herself. I guess that's singleness on earth life. <br /><br />I personally am pro- polygamy. I'd be a wife and a mother if that were the case. I also did a marriage study years ago and there was more positive about plural marriage than there ever was negative. <br /><br />I'm sure the scriptures were chosen carefully and I sure hope there is a change coming.Becky Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03733518903943141370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6478273273186623663.post-73039924923598844482013-09-04T09:30:50.652-07:002013-09-04T09:30:50.652-07:00Could be, could be.Could be, could be.Michaela Stephenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04163084369311708249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6478273273186623663.post-7474623772452198062013-09-04T09:29:56.979-07:002013-09-04T09:29:56.979-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Devonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15864328659726192996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6478273273186623663.post-42059006082742059952013-09-02T21:38:22.061-07:002013-09-02T21:38:22.061-07:00Could the scripture in Isaiah also refer to single...Could the scripture in Isaiah also refer to single women using sperm donors to have children without entering a committed relationship with a man?Jason Allredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00830969652543013706noreply@blogger.com