tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6478273273186623663.post3446439653393476392..comments2024-03-12T12:03:26.474-07:00Comments on Scriptorium Blogorium: Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, LordMichaela Stephenshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04163084369311708249noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6478273273186623663.post-51840737131658061912012-09-14T19:01:11.509-07:002012-09-14T19:01:11.509-07:00Catania, that's interesting that you bring up ...Catania, that's interesting that you bring up the story of the woman crying at Jesus's feet and wiping his feet with her hair. That was kind of public gratitude there. And you're right; it does seem like it was expressing a sense of being forgiven, but maybe there was repentance there too.Michaela Stephenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04163084369311708249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6478273273186623663.post-25853847329250040132012-09-13T12:35:29.014-07:002012-09-13T12:35:29.014-07:00As usual, you have my mind swirling right now. :)
...As usual, you have my mind swirling right now. :)<br /><br />A few thoughts.<br /><br />When the Lord says "I never knew you," I love what you bring out. I hadn't thought of it in the way you presented before. Also, as I was reading, I was thinking of <a href="http://www.lds.org/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/38.1?lang=eng#primary" rel="nofollow">Doctrine and Covenants 38:1-2</a> Here verse two says: "The same which knoweth all things, for all things are present before mine eyes;" - this calls to mind how the Lord isn't bound by time. He sees all things in one. So, even if we <em>presently</em> believe and even repent, the Lord sees all...(not sure...just an idea)<br /><br />Also - as far as repentance goes - it is deeply personal. It is hard to express. It is especially hard to express without divulging sins and weaknesses. <br /><br />I also wonder if - when people express a testimony of God's love - it is a part of the forgiveness/repentance process that they have experienced.<br /><br />I love the story of the woman who washed Christ's feet with her tears and wiped them with her hair for this reason. She had been forgiven. Her forgiveness implies repentance. And how do you express forgiveness, other than crying at the Master's feet? <br /><br />A few years ago, while I was single, I went through a hard time. I had been in a bad (dating) relationship. I was aware of the shortcomings I had. Not only at that moment, but throughout my life. Yet, I was blessed. When I met my husband we dated, courted, and began the process to cancel the temple blessings from my first marriage. It was intense. I went in to my bishop, and he asked me to look at a picture of the Savior. He asked me if I knew that Christ loved me, and how I felt about him. My only remark was, "I know how the woman felt." I understood why she did what she did, and was grateful that there was someone who <em>did serve the Savior</em> in this way. Anyways - I kind of wonder if often, when people talk about repentance, they often focus on the blessing of forgiveness rather than the process itself...it may be helpful for us to talk about repentance more (in general terms)...<br /><br />long comment...but thanks for the post.cataniahttp://thatgoodpart.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6478273273186623663.post-5184476418513567212012-09-13T09:34:56.178-07:002012-09-13T09:34:56.178-07:00Ramona, your primary girls are pretty sharp; that ...Ramona, your primary girls are pretty sharp; that was a very good question they asked! I also know what it is like to have people I talk to about the gospel reject the need for baptism.<br /><br />Lily, I too like to think that there is a lot of repenting going on that I don't know about. <br />As for those souls in the scriptures who plead for their people to God, they are types of Christ, who pleads to the Father for us. In the Old Testament, the high priest would offer sacrifice and prayer on behalf of the people one day a year (the Day of Atonement) as a type of Christ's advocacy and sacrifice for us.Michaela Stephenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04163084369311708249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6478273273186623663.post-18888047774006340042012-09-12T16:20:15.035-07:002012-09-12T16:20:15.035-07:00I enjoyed your post, as I've often pondered th...I enjoyed your post, as I've often pondered the meaning of this same scripture. You asked "How often do we hear people share with us the experience they had as they repented?" I'd say not at all. However, I like to believe that those brethren that we perceive to be very humble likely have done much repenting. I don't believe prideful folks practice much repenting.My challenge in life is to not assume or judge someone who seems a bit prideful as not a repenter. <br />Another aspect that I've pondered are those giant souls in the scriptures that plead (repent) for their city, country, peoples. I've often wondered why they would bother...well I do know-they're hearts are much softer than mine :)Lily Whitfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12849688750901579917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6478273273186623663.post-65280133813352317532012-09-12T10:15:45.151-07:002012-09-12T10:15:45.151-07:00I have heard sermons on those scripture, and now r...I have heard sermons on those scripture, and now realizing that they may not have been "rightly divided" for their full explanation, I was bothered by them. Paul the Apostle seem to have a companion scripture in Romans,but he seems to touch on "the Doctrine of Christ"<br />ROMANS 3:23-25<br />23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;<br />24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:<br />25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God"<br /><br />I had a moment of clarity while teaching 3 Nephi in Primary. My girls asked the question why were certain Nephites spared and others weren't? And if these people were more righteous than those who were killed, why did they have to repent? (Again we have all sinned and fallen short..)<br /><br />3 NEPHI 9:13-14<br />O all ye that are spared; because ye were more righteous than they, will ye not now return unto me, and repent of your sins, and be converted, that I may heal you?<br />14 Yea verily I say unto you, if ye will come unto me ye shall have eternal life. Behold, mine arm of mercy is extended towards you, and whosoever will come, him will I receive, and blessed are those who come unto me. <br /><br />So in Nephi chapter 11, the Savior gives a plain and simple discourse on what he requires; Faith, repentance and baptism. It should have literally rung a bell with those Nephites, because it rung my bell. <br />3 Nephi 11:38 And again I say unto you, ye must repent, and be baptized in my name, and become as a little child, or ye can in nowise inherit the kingdom of God. <br /><br />When I have had opportunities to answer questions concerning my faith;I am often asked if baptism is still necessary. I always testify with an emphatic yes, baptism is alive and well and required. And some people are offended that "baptism" would be a "stumbling block" for their progression. I know, because I struggled with it while I was investigating the Church of Jesus Christ of LDS. I had to believe that any further progressive relationship with Jesus Christ and Heavenly Father had to include baptism, as well as my faith and repentance. (sorry this is so long)<br />Thank you MichealaRamona Gordyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03897052109437761869noreply@blogger.com